I'm not heart'ing Wiki at the moment
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azuriteWhile it was great to hear the other day that people actually enjoy using and adding to WikiFic, sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that ever adds articles. I doubt it's because people don't have the knowledge, and it's not like WF's rules are so stringent that I'd delete ANYTHING. In fact, most people have added some pretty good quality info that I wouldn't have known about otherwise!
What pisses me off is that the Yu-Gi-Oh Wikia, which primarily focuses on the TCG/OCG as opposed to the fandom aspect of the series, is much larger- it's got over 13,000 articles, while we're teetering near 200. Most of those articles are for cards, of course, and all the subsequent data like trivia. It's not that it's larger and obviously has more people working for it-- it's that everything is made so easy for them because they're hosted on Wikia, a "make your own wiki" site. It takes all the work and learning out of it. If I'd known about Wikia years ago, before I started WikiFic, I might have put it there, but I didn't. I also don't like ad-supported anything, so I've done everything on my own domain.
That's part of the reason why anything is a long time coming with WikiFic-- it takes a LOT of trial and error, searching, uninstalling and reinstalling... I'm always having issues, and I don't have a website support team to back me up. I have to turn to the MediaWiki.org Discussion pages, the Mediawiki-l mailing list, and similar places. Even my own web host can't help out with MediaWiki beyond enabling things via SSH and the like. And I'm on a shared host, because I can't afford a private one, which means many of my editing options are limited.
It looks like the YGO Wikia has a LOT more extensions that either don't exist for the general MediaWiki public (which is also infuriating) or require some "heavy duty" editing, like adding *.pl files. I'd love to be able to take advantage of rotating templates for featured cards, JavaScript for displaying pages succinctly, timelines, and so on, but it's tough doing it on my own. Looking at the Wikia, sometimes it seems hopeless, even though I look at WikiFic and I realize I didn't create it for people looking to verify card info or get strategies-- it's for fic writers and readers that should know about the series they're involved with. You'll probably never see anything on how astrology and blood types tie into Yu-Gi-Oh at the Wikia, but those articles (mainly because they're mine :P) are at WikiFic. I'd like to think that can/does apply to a lot of other articles too, but we have SO FEW at this point...
*sigh* I just wish I had more involvement, I guess. I wish that for a lot of my sites. Maybe I'm more of a team-player than a lone wolf than I thought.
What pisses me off is that the Yu-Gi-Oh Wikia, which primarily focuses on the TCG/OCG as opposed to the fandom aspect of the series, is much larger- it's got over 13,000 articles, while we're teetering near 200. Most of those articles are for cards, of course, and all the subsequent data like trivia. It's not that it's larger and obviously has more people working for it-- it's that everything is made so easy for them because they're hosted on Wikia, a "make your own wiki" site. It takes all the work and learning out of it. If I'd known about Wikia years ago, before I started WikiFic, I might have put it there, but I didn't. I also don't like ad-supported anything, so I've done everything on my own domain.
That's part of the reason why anything is a long time coming with WikiFic-- it takes a LOT of trial and error, searching, uninstalling and reinstalling... I'm always having issues, and I don't have a website support team to back me up. I have to turn to the MediaWiki.org Discussion pages, the Mediawiki-l mailing list, and similar places. Even my own web host can't help out with MediaWiki beyond enabling things via SSH and the like. And I'm on a shared host, because I can't afford a private one, which means many of my editing options are limited.
It looks like the YGO Wikia has a LOT more extensions that either don't exist for the general MediaWiki public (which is also infuriating) or require some "heavy duty" editing, like adding *.pl files. I'd love to be able to take advantage of rotating templates for featured cards, JavaScript for displaying pages succinctly, timelines, and so on, but it's tough doing it on my own. Looking at the Wikia, sometimes it seems hopeless, even though I look at WikiFic and I realize I didn't create it for people looking to verify card info or get strategies-- it's for fic writers and readers that should know about the series they're involved with. You'll probably never see anything on how astrology and blood types tie into Yu-Gi-Oh at the Wikia, but those articles (mainly because they're mine :P) are at WikiFic. I'd like to think that can/does apply to a lot of other articles too, but we have SO FEW at this point...
*sigh* I just wish I had more involvement, I guess. I wish that for a lot of my sites. Maybe I'm more of a team-player than a lone wolf than I thought.
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Re: Hello!
Date: 2007-09-04 01:31 am (UTC)It's obvious that the Wikia is the undisputed resource for TCG/OCG and Official data pertaining therein.
Your Wiki could actually hold 'updated' card effects, in line with UDE's text changes. As you've probably noticed (or not) it's nigh impossible for us to include "unofficial" content, since we pride ourselves on getting accturate information quickly.
Re: Hello!
Date: 2007-09-04 03:36 am (UTC)But yes, I'd have no qualms with having "updated" info, errata, and things like that.
Re: Hello!
Date: 2007-09-04 04:55 pm (UTC)How would you feel about fan-made cards? They're technically "fandem" material, which is why I've only allowed a few -sparing- Proxy images. How would you feel about expanding the idea to include fan-made images of all cards with updated text? The artwork can be copied across easily. This also would include make Anime, Manga, and Video Game cards, as well as fan-made cards that don't exist. What do you think?
Re: Hello!
Date: 2007-09-04 07:46 pm (UTC)Also, fan-made cards fall perfectly within the realm of "fandom," so I think for the most part, they'd be appropriate on WikiFic, though I'd probably have to create a new Input box mod for them so they don't get confused with real cards (TCG/OCG, anime, manga, or video game)
Re: Hello!
Date: 2007-09-04 09:05 pm (UTC)EffectMonsterTable
AnimeEffectMonsterTable
VideoEffectMonsterTable
NormalMonsterTable
AnimeNormalMonsterTable
VideoNormalMonsterTable
RitualMonsterTable
AnimeRitualMonsterTable
VideoRitualMonsterTable
FusionMonsterTable
AnimeFusionMonsterTable
VideoFusionMonsterTable
SpellCardTable
AnimeSpellCardTable
VideoSpellCardTable
TrapCardTemplate
AnimeTrapCardTemplate
VideoTrapCardTemplate
You'll also need the preload templates
NormalTemplate
EffectTemplate
RitualTemplate
FusionTemplate
SpellTemplate
TrapTemplate
As well as the OCG-Only ones
OCGEffectMonsterTable
OCGNormalMonsterTable
OCGRitualMonsterTable
OCGFusionMonsterTable
OCGSpellCardTable
OCGTrapCardTemplate
As well as a few misc ones:
MiscTable
MangaOtherCardTable
GodCardTable
For some video-game cards that only appear in one video game, we usually use a seperate template, prefixed with the set number used for the promos given with that game (For example, Tag Force would be GX02, so a Spell Card from that game would use VideoGX02SpellCardTable).