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Nov. 25th, 2004 01:31 amHappy Thanksgiving, all.
If there's anything to be happy about. Thankful yeah, sure. But happy? Not so much.
1) I'm up this early because I just now (or will within the next 20 minutes) finish Dad's present-- the Turkey 2K4 collection. My long-ago well-thought-out plan to convert it to CD and cassette is nil; I have 8 CDs total, which means over 640 minutes, which means over 8 cassettes, and I only have 5. -_- So Dad will have to settle for CDs for now, which means he can't play them in the car unless he's upped his stereo system (which I doubt).
2) I'm going to Fresno tomorrow at some ungodly (probably) hour of the morning. Stupid Dan. Why couldn't the annual Thanksgiving be in San Diego? He's such a show-off. And to top it all off, he's the least sociable of the uncles, the one that has NO sense of humor, and he's a DENTIST. -_- Ugh!
3) Shadowed Mediocrity left me a review for WDKY12, and while I try to force myself to appreciate every review that's actually worth my while (concrit falling into that category) her latest review just sort of swallowed me up and spit me out in a puddle of bile. In a nutshell, Kaiba was OOC again, the chapter was short and disappointing, and until I'm in a better mood and come up with better ideas than the slight revisions I did just now, I can't post diddly at FFnet. There's a new bug.
4) I actually beat the Specter Keeper and Yunalesca in Zanarkand, but stupid me couldn't figure out the map for the Cloister and kicked myself out before I could get the Sun Crest. Ergo, I reset my game to before I beat Yunalesca. -_- Yay, another tiring battle with lots of used-up Holy Waters... and speaking of Holy, I have to teach that to Yuna. Plus, Auron's got to head toward Tidus's Sphere Grid, Wakka to Auron's, Yuna and Rikku are already trading off, and Kimhari's pretty near to Lulu, so... yeah.
I'm tired, and almost done, but still... rather bummed. Anyone have any advice for a poor sap like myself?
If there's anything to be happy about. Thankful yeah, sure. But happy? Not so much.
1) I'm up this early because I just now (or will within the next 20 minutes) finish Dad's present-- the Turkey 2K4 collection. My long-ago well-thought-out plan to convert it to CD and cassette is nil; I have 8 CDs total, which means over 640 minutes, which means over 8 cassettes, and I only have 5. -_- So Dad will have to settle for CDs for now, which means he can't play them in the car unless he's upped his stereo system (which I doubt).
2) I'm going to Fresno tomorrow at some ungodly (probably) hour of the morning. Stupid Dan. Why couldn't the annual Thanksgiving be in San Diego? He's such a show-off. And to top it all off, he's the least sociable of the uncles, the one that has NO sense of humor, and he's a DENTIST. -_- Ugh!
3) Shadowed Mediocrity left me a review for WDKY12, and while I try to force myself to appreciate every review that's actually worth my while (concrit falling into that category) her latest review just sort of swallowed me up and spit me out in a puddle of bile. In a nutshell, Kaiba was OOC again, the chapter was short and disappointing, and until I'm in a better mood and come up with better ideas than the slight revisions I did just now, I can't post diddly at FFnet. There's a new bug.
4) I actually beat the Specter Keeper and Yunalesca in Zanarkand, but stupid me couldn't figure out the map for the Cloister and kicked myself out before I could get the Sun Crest. Ergo, I reset my game to before I beat Yunalesca. -_- Yay, another tiring battle with lots of used-up Holy Waters... and speaking of Holy, I have to teach that to Yuna. Plus, Auron's got to head toward Tidus's Sphere Grid, Wakka to Auron's, Yuna and Rikku are already trading off, and Kimhari's pretty near to Lulu, so... yeah.
I'm tired, and almost done, but still... rather bummed. Anyone have any advice for a poor sap like myself?
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Date: 2004-11-25 02:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-25 05:36 pm (UTC)To which people though.... To be honest, in the Japanese version, Seto is far more polite and cordial....
I just can't help loving some of the dub lines because of how Eric Stuart says them and gives Seto such flare. _^_
That's number 1.
Number 2. I've said it before, I'll say it again, he changes and matures from the beginning. He goes through the most character development of anyone. And yeah...which people. >.> You have to remember, Seto has a level of how he reacts or treats certain people depending on how he views them...and once that view changes slightly, is altered, even slightly, so does how he treats them.
[!!! *points down*]
see...it isn't so much about Seto changing...because he isn't. He's still who he is. He's still dangerous. He's still someone you don't mess with, but to certain other people he just displays a bit more of the truth.
It's an admittance to having matured and understanding what's important.
^^;; I know...but don't worry so much. Just understand Seto is going to have to accept things a bit more. ^^;;; He's doing fine though. Remember, it's not even really change...it's just Seto show himself a little more.
Change is a whole thing...altogether.
A change was when Seto stopped being open and closed himself off, but he didn't change who he was deep inside, in his core. He never really stopped being that sweet little boy who wanted to help other orphans. He still sticks to that, he just doesn't flaunt his desire, because he's not doing it for praise.
He's not doing it for acceptance...he just wants to help them. He just wants to keep his little brother happy, safe and warm. How is he a cold-hearted bastard? Tell me how that man is evil. Tell me.
How can someone who wants nothing but the best for his little brother, who took down a weapons operation and shut it down, who opens his amusement parks free to orphans, who would go back, after being told something is dangerous, and insist on staying to help...how he is evil? Cold? A monster? A jerk?
Yeah, he's done cruel things.... But then people have to come to the realisation, just like Seto, that those things weren't necessarily him. They were a defense mechanism, to keep people away. They were brought on by pain, but outside figures that warped his perception a little. It's not really him.
It's the man that adopted him. It's the pain of losing his parents. It's the curse of having to grow up too soon. The pain of thinking people will just abandon him, like his own family abandoned Mokie and him.
That's not Seto Kaiba.
Those are just the things that made him keep his true self more special...only able to be shown to certain people. Of course he's still gonna be snotty to strangers--they don't matter. Of course he's still going to be insulting, ect..ect. When you're Seto Kaiba, very few people deserve to know the truth, because they can come in and hurt you. So he can't let people know. You have to earn that right. The problem is--Yuugi figured him out. Maybe not completely, maybe not one-hundred percent, but Yuugi started putting faith in him. Yuugi noticed Seto's good points without Seto ever showing him anything. A lot of other people just take him at face value.... Most people, normal people, fall for the facade and pin him as a jerk. He's cold. He's ruthless. Yuugi's seen past all of that. And Seto has to be wondering how in the hell Yuugi managed that. How he managed that. He's probably still testing him, watching him closely--one slip and it's to hell you go--*BUT* he's got to at least be impressed.--touched. Something.
^^ And we can thank Neko for the wonderful bit of advice. (XD; Sorry, Neko, I just had to post this-- such good words.)
But anyway, in WDKY-- Seto was not too mushy-- I mean.. He's been through it ALL in that story. His character has to develop a little bit! Heck-- A LOT! People don't give him enough credit in that department... ^^ But yeah, hope this helps a little bit...
*poke* Keep the spirits up.
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Date: 2004-11-25 07:27 pm (UTC)Yeah, it was short but - again - I think there was enough plot development that anything more would have detracted from the emotional turmoil inherent in the Mokuba-ran-away portion.
Happy Thanksgiving!!!
Thank-you! <3
Date: 2004-11-25 09:56 pm (UTC)All the same, I am *GOING* to have to add, since that little pep-talk to you didn't cover everything in regards to Az's chapter.
"Seto, she probably came off as intimidating.." -- Now this I have some trouble believing. Téa, intimidating? It might just be Mokuba's point of view.. but still! The idea strikes me as hilarious- she's intimidating only in her ruthless efficiency of her concept of friendship. Is that what you meant, or something else?
I REALLY have to say something about this, because YES, she is intimidating. She's a tomboy, and some of Yûgi, Jounouchi and Honda's reactions in regards to her make it clear they are intimidated by her. Okay, so that's manga knowledge.... But in fact, as far as I know, Azurite has read the manga, and I think her version of Anzu is far more like the manga version, which I prefer anyway. I'm not overly fond of the anime version, and even less fond of the dubbed version im comparison to the manga counterpart. I actually adore Anzu, in spite of what I just said; just being honest.
That's just point one. Point two is in regards to Seto being intimidated. If you were someone whom has closed yourself off from everyone else, and were afraid to give trust to another, to admit deep feelings you never thought you would have to deal with, you would be afraid. You would be afraid of those feelings, and what might happen to you if you gave in. Besides, Seto is a control-freak, and emotions mean loss of control. The head is no longer in control and the heart takes over. He would be afraid of something like that, and since Anzu was the source of said emotions and issues, she would come off that way.
As for Seto shortly before they get back- I didn't think that he'd trust so much to Yugi's promises. Not as thoroughly as I think you wrote him to. In fact, I'm not even sure that he trusts -Mokuba- that much.
Ummm...and why not? According to Seto, Yuugi's as simple as all get out about how easily he trusts, and when he says something, he means exactly what he says. Seto may scoff at that part of Yuugi, but in the same respect, because of how he views it, it also means he can believe Yuugi's promises. Besides, trusting a promise from the right person is far easier than friendship. Friendship is a far bigger step altogether.
And after--what--this should be two years by now, roughly, I'd think Seto would get at least that part of Yuugi by now. Yes, he's stubborn. Yes, he's cold, distant, afraid to trust--but Seto is NOT an idiot. Really. I would think he knew better by now. Pffftt! End of story.
I thought he'd be a little more reprimanding, too, what with how Mokuba just ran off. Seto depends a lot on his younger brother, and so, I imagined that he'd be sharper, would give Mokuba a lecture before succumbing to the inevitable urge to explain to him, in a kindly brotherly fashion (or at least, as kind as Kaiba gets. XD) how things are, and how things won't change.
And Kaiba? Suggesting no secrets from anyone, including himself? Wow. Téa's /really/ wrought a change in him.
Maybe that is a huge step so soon...that's a possibility, but at the same time, I like to think of Seto as intelligent and capable of maturing. I like to believe his character developes and grows over time, because that is what I thought I saw in the series. Secrets tear things apart if they're the wrong ones, and I'd like to think that Seto would learn that, eventually.
And there--I'm done blabbering for the day, honest. ^-^;;;
Happy Thanksgiving, Az. ^O^ And another thank-you to Mamono for posting my words and thinking so highly of that jibberish.
Looking at that now I realise how bad my punctuation gets when I go off on a rant (I'm sitting here wanting to correct that entire thing *cough*). Actually, everything just gets shot in light of something more important--Seto's character. Which I uphold with greatest respect to he is, while noting his faults and understanding how they can be smoothed out over time, under the right circumstances.
*cough* Done...really. Done now. I will stop.
O_O
Date: 2004-11-30 04:23 am (UTC)I do want to get back to work on WDKY though, and if you ever want to get in on my evil scheming sessions, I'd be more than happy to exchange. I still owe you a Ch. 16 spoileriffic image, btw. I'll work on that ASAP. :)
Re: O_O
Date: 2004-11-30 10:06 pm (UTC)Meh, I don't think it's dweebish. You wrote what you did for a reason, and readers should trust your judgement-- considering how well you do in your writing. This is just kind of solidfying it. ^^; And it'll get them to stop screaming.
The chapter was just fine-- seriously. <.< No matter how much you write, it'll never be enough for *everyone* X__X Someone ALWAYS complains. It's your story-- they can bite something. If you think the chapter should end there, the chapter SHOULD END THERE.
^^ If I ever SAW you online, I would! ^^ Man, you're missed! :D And yes...image...! ^-^!
Re: O_O
Date: 2004-12-01 08:33 pm (UTC)^^;; Essay? *sweatdrop* I suppose...it needs major revisions in such case. And being the one who start it, I'd prefer doing that myself. I think I will. >.> I know...obsessive-compulsive. I should be working on *MY FANFICS*. *cough* Not decent!Seto protection essays. ^^;; Never mind--if you actually want to use that thing for anything, go right ahead. Mamono saved it, after all. X___X Might as well use my rambling for *SOMETHING*.
All the same, that "essay" came about because of Seto's slight changes at the RP we're in, so I had to defend him--even to Mamono...the mun. ^^;; The perception changes mostly revolved around Yuugi because most of the change happened with Yuugi, but he's more or less, the prime example--he wasn't the only one perceptions changed with (and I'm a huge sucker for Seto and Yuugi friendship...so, I had to do something >___<). The same could really be said for Anzu in WDKY--how she saw through him, ect....
Yuugi does some of it via the show...but I think that's more the original version than dubbed. ^^;; *shrugs* I'm not entirely sure on that. I just know they all went through hell at that RP, and therefore grew and matured together. It does change things between people--no matter what one tries to be like.
Heh, back to the length--as others have said, it's your fic. You're entitled to decide where it ends, what happens, ect.... And besides, so many people like what you do as it is, and you can't please everyone. ;3 It's very true. You just can't. The least you can do is make sure you please someone (yourself), and if others like it--good for them. If some don't--their loss.
Whew. X___X I'm done. That's it. Really.