I'm not entirely sure what to think.
Apr. 10th, 2004 01:34 amWell, I started a flame-war. Whoops?
Okay, so I'm not a yaoi fangirl. In all honesty, gay couples (maleXmale) make me uncomfortable. In fanfiction, it weirds me out, especially with characters that have NO previous history, and the fic writer carries on like there's nothing out of the ordinary with someone who is as straight as a board suddenly f*cking other guys left and right.
I can't stand people who don't do their research --even a little. At least a LITTLE shows. The author of the fic above did a good deal of research, and wrote an original, interesting fic, with an interesting pairing. I have nothing against that! It's yaoi fics with graphic sex and, let's say, no lube, that bug me. It's like the author has a little glowing sign next to their name that says 'Virgin yaoi fangirl!'
Someone wanna tell me why, of any given fandom, there are:
a) more female writers than males
b) more females into yaoi
c) very few men *willing* to write ACCURATE yaoi
d) very few females bothering to do the research about real yaoi?
I don't get turned on by menslash. I just don't. Femmeslash, yeah, maybe, but not menslash.
Anyway, people really started getting fired up over it-- some stayed polite (and thank Ra for that), but others just got so damned wanky, I was almost on the verge of tears (it took a lot of self-control not to swear at some of the pricks)-- but that could be the PMS talking. Concrit, concrit, concrit! Like a mantra...
*shudder* Just looking for a NORMAL (i.e we like fics, keep them below Rated R) Yu-Gi-Oh fic group is impossible... All of them are slash-happy or hentai-happy ... >_< I'm not the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" type, I guess.
*sigh* I don't know why this has me so upset.
I don't wank to go to Northridge in a grumpy mood, because dealing with my relative seriously makes things worse. I know I'll have little to non Comp Time down there, and my bank account fritzed on me, so I have something like $20 for the rest of the week.
*sarcastic* Yeah, my birthday's going to rock!
More people replied to something I didn't intend to be a flame than did to my "plea" for parties interested in my birthday and free food. Or something.
Damnit, I hate being female.
I think I'm going to watch Otakudom or something now. I need to cheer myself up. And then shower.
Okay, so I'm not a yaoi fangirl. In all honesty, gay couples (maleXmale) make me uncomfortable. In fanfiction, it weirds me out, especially with characters that have NO previous history, and the fic writer carries on like there's nothing out of the ordinary with someone who is as straight as a board suddenly f*cking other guys left and right.
I can't stand people who don't do their research --even a little. At least a LITTLE shows. The author of the fic above did a good deal of research, and wrote an original, interesting fic, with an interesting pairing. I have nothing against that! It's yaoi fics with graphic sex and, let's say, no lube, that bug me. It's like the author has a little glowing sign next to their name that says 'Virgin yaoi fangirl!'
Someone wanna tell me why, of any given fandom, there are:
a) more female writers than males
b) more females into yaoi
c) very few men *willing* to write ACCURATE yaoi
d) very few females bothering to do the research about real yaoi?
I don't get turned on by menslash. I just don't. Femmeslash, yeah, maybe, but not menslash.
Anyway, people really started getting fired up over it-- some stayed polite (and thank Ra for that), but others just got so damned wanky, I was almost on the verge of tears (it took a lot of self-control not to swear at some of the pricks)-- but that could be the PMS talking. Concrit, concrit, concrit! Like a mantra...
*shudder* Just looking for a NORMAL (i.e we like fics, keep them below Rated R) Yu-Gi-Oh fic group is impossible... All of them are slash-happy or hentai-happy ... >_< I'm not the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" type, I guess.
*sigh* I don't know why this has me so upset.
I don't wank to go to Northridge in a grumpy mood, because dealing with my relative seriously makes things worse. I know I'll have little to non Comp Time down there, and my bank account fritzed on me, so I have something like $20 for the rest of the week.
*sarcastic* Yeah, my birthday's going to rock!
More people replied to something I didn't intend to be a flame than did to my "plea" for parties interested in my birthday and free food. Or something.
Damnit, I hate being female.
I think I'm going to watch Otakudom or something now. I need to cheer myself up. And then shower.
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Date: 2004-04-10 01:56 am (UTC)hehe. GirlXGirl makes me uncomfortable. I've yet to understand it. :P
Yaoi is scary.
^^
Date: 2004-04-10 02:22 am (UTC)I don't think either gender is ever meant to understand the opposite, hence all the confusion and squicky feelings.
But yeah, yaoi *is* scary. Especially fangirl yaoi.
There must be a bug going around
Date: 2004-04-10 02:29 am (UTC)I would of enjoyed going to your b-day party, even though I'm not a party person, but I don't live close by to you. ;_; Though I'm not a big fan of my birthday either. My b-day is always a crappy day and this year wasn't any different. It was what like 3 weeks ago or less and I was freaking sick. I hate being sick and imagine being sick on your birthday. *sigh* Though I have noted your b-day and I'll be sure to say happy b-day to you! ^_^ So buck up and don't let other people bring down your mood. Ha! Like I can talk, Ms. Moody over here. I'm just trying to think happy thoughts and you should too! ^_~
Re: There must be a bug going around
Date: 2004-04-10 08:47 am (UTC)I just happen to have excellent timing-- period on the birthday week. Gawd, moody x 10!
Re: There must be a bug going around
Date: 2004-04-10 07:21 pm (UTC)Re: There must be a bug going around
Date: 2004-04-11 01:06 am (UTC)I hope I can swing a trip to Magic Mountain this weekend. :D
Re: There must be a bug going around
Date: 2004-04-11 01:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-10 05:49 am (UTC)Hope to see you in the RPG soon, Anzu!
O_O
Date: 2004-04-10 08:50 am (UTC)Re: O_O
Date: 2004-04-10 12:16 pm (UTC)Re: O_O
Date: 2004-04-10 05:02 pm (UTC)Re: O_O
Date: 2004-04-11 08:03 am (UTC)Re: O_O
Date: 2004-04-11 11:35 am (UTC)I have seen a few Mai/Kaiba fics lately, which irks me... frankly, I think if well-written, it could work-- temporarily. But Mai does have a thing for Jounouchi, which doesn't put her high up in Kaiba's book. Likewise, she's also much older than him, but I think *he* actually has more maturity (sometimes, anyway).
Some people are just silly...
Date: 2004-04-10 06:06 am (UTC)Yaoi *does* scare me... but it's not because I don't accept gay/lesbian relationships. What disgusts me most is just because it's more accepted now, suddenly *every* male/female character in a tv show/movie/anime has the potential to have a same-sex 'encounter'. Suddenly, there's no more *room* for straight couples---it's almost abhoring to see a m/f relationship. I've had people *flame* me for writing a m/f lemon. O.o
Doesn't that ring alarm bells in anyone's head? If anyone is 'close-minded' I think it's these fangirls. Yaoi is the 'in' thing right now... and personally, I don't think have of these giggly, fourteen-year olds understand what it means to be in a gay relationship or have feelings for the same sex.
So why write about it? Just because its the 'trendy' thing right now? Personally, I think that's silly...because what that tells me is that they're just bending to the will of society. These fangirls have no opinions of their own---they just see what's cool and they follow it, regardless whether they understand it or not.
But the best part is, they will *defend* it to the death...even if they've never witnessed/been apart of/shared feelings for a same sex relationship.
Pay them no mind. You have a right to state your opinions...and that doesn't make you a 'nazi bitch' :P
*giggling about the idiocy of it all*
Flame War General Mamono...
Date: 2004-04-10 02:10 pm (UTC)I don't mind Yaoi either--as long as it's plausibe-- I won't read it, but I won't dislike either... This whole thing is frustrating, but I'm not going to let their immaturity ruin my day! ^~ Props to you all for being decent!
Re: Flame War General Mamono...
Date: 2004-04-10 05:14 pm (UTC)I think this whole affair has numbed my brain to the point where I'll make concessions-- fine, Seto = Seth = Set. I don't *like* the latter two names because 1) Seth is Hebrew in origin, and 2) Set was a very nasty god, and no matter how evil Seto ever was in YGO or in his past life, he was never THAT bad willingly.
But whatever. As long as people know who they're talking about?
No more semantics.
I surrender.
Re: Flame War General Mamono...
Date: 2004-04-10 05:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-10 06:19 pm (UTC)I don't think I've even managed that.
Unless you count a couple of times on SMRFF...but that's different! *grins*
And yes, I know it wasn't your fault, I know that fangirls are exactly like the girl who posted before me (forgot your name) said, they're basically stupid on a level that should not be allowed in the capital of free-thinking society. But, I still must applaud you for doing it *grins*
Now go out and rally those WAFF/TAFF people!
Rallying the folks?
Date: 2004-04-10 11:24 pm (UTC)You don't mean WvT, do you?
I guess it is kinda silly... :DDD
Re: Rallying the folks?
Date: 2004-04-10 11:27 pm (UTC)And yes, WvT day, you're the holiday mod, ne? (Or am I getting people confuzzled again?!)
Re: Rallying the folks?
Date: 2004-04-11 01:25 am (UTC)But yeah, w-cat's story is gone now, sadly. I wonder if she took her whole account off... >_>
Re: Rallying the folks?
Date: 2004-04-11 10:40 pm (UTC)Aaaaanyway.
NO! You haven't been doing your job! SHAME ON YOU! *shakes finger* I had to check to make sure I was right that you were the mod!