It's kind of annoying...
Jun. 8th, 2005 05:31 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
azuriteHm, you know there's always one debate or another going around about fandoms... and one in Yu-Gi-Oh that seems perpetual is the whole "Was it 3000 or 5000 years ago?" It's my personal belief that 5000 makes more sense. Think about this:
Yu-Gi-Oh finished airing in 2004. The manga series finished just a bit before the last episode aired.
2004 - 3000 = 1004 B.C.
In 1004 B.C., there were several dynasties: the 21st to the 25th, to be precise. It's called the "Third Intermediate Period," and lasted until 656 B.C. It wasn't too long after that that the Romans invaded, occupied, and ruled Egypt. I hardly think the Pharaoh we've come to know is:
a) a mixed Egyptian/Roman ruler OR
b) a figurehead Pharaoh, with no real ruling power
Meanwhile, 2004-5000 = 2996 BC (I think). That would place the storyline of the Pharaoh back when Egypt was young, during the 1st-3rd Dynasties-- predating Tutkanhamun himself. Personally I think this makes more sense, and would "explain" the reason why history forgot Atemu as Pharaoh, and why Duel Monsters/the Dark Games were never "covered" in history- because they were archaic, old, and "lost to the ages!"
...Hm, time to go to Borders. I'll make another post about the freaky people and my freaky adventures later.
Of note:
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mklutz, not this entry, the one before this!
(2) I posted another 30 kisses! I really oughta get working on my pairing, ne? And posting them, too...
Yu-Gi-Oh finished airing in 2004. The manga series finished just a bit before the last episode aired.
2004 - 3000 = 1004 B.C.
In 1004 B.C., there were several dynasties: the 21st to the 25th, to be precise. It's called the "Third Intermediate Period," and lasted until 656 B.C. It wasn't too long after that that the Romans invaded, occupied, and ruled Egypt. I hardly think the Pharaoh we've come to know is:
a) a mixed Egyptian/Roman ruler OR
b) a figurehead Pharaoh, with no real ruling power
Meanwhile, 2004-5000 = 2996 BC (I think). That would place the storyline of the Pharaoh back when Egypt was young, during the 1st-3rd Dynasties-- predating Tutkanhamun himself. Personally I think this makes more sense, and would "explain" the reason why history forgot Atemu as Pharaoh, and why Duel Monsters/the Dark Games were never "covered" in history- because they were archaic, old, and "lost to the ages!"
...Hm, time to go to Borders. I'll make another post about the freaky people and my freaky adventures later.
Of note:
(1)
mklutz, not this entry, the one before this!(2) I posted another 30 kisses! I really oughta get working on my pairing, ne? And posting them, too...
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Date: 2005-06-09 02:13 am (UTC)Even during the Roman Republic's expansion East, they didn't take control of Egypt . . . unless you count by proxy. They certainly put up who they wanted to rule but it was always an Egyptian -- they kept Alexander's system going. The Ptolemies ruled, hence Cleopatra during the 50s/40s BCE.
It wasn't until Cleo and Antony hooked up and started all kinds of political upheaval that Octavian (soon to be Augustus) invaded Egypt as a political formality (he has already won the war at the Battle of Actium) and made Egypt part of the (new ) Roman Empire (no longer a Republic, though it would take a bit of work to make Octavian truly emporer). That was in 30 BCE.
Wasn't Alexander either. He was Macedonian -- but he wasn't annoint pharaoh till 332 BCE. when he liberated the Egyptians from Persian rule. The Assyrians would be closer but they didn't get very far in their push. There was the Babylonian Exile which saw the EGYPTIANS invading Judah, making it a vassal to Egypt in 609 BCE . . . Probably you were talking about the Persians? They took Egypt around 525 BCE . . . by Cambysses II -- he was, by Egyptian accounts, widely accepted.
Sorry, long-winded again XD
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Date: 2005-06-09 04:27 am (UTC)What I find amusing is that they switch from 5000 to 3000 in the ORIGINAL JAPANESE ANIME. And I'm not talking about a mistake of the subbers-- it was actually SPOKEN. Sugoroku/Grandpa says the Millennium Items and games date back 5000 years (he was a former game master and archaeologist; why shouldn't he be right?) while Shadi (oh yes, we all trust Shadi) says they're 3000 years old. Both of them could be rounding off, but still...
Re: =D
Date: 2005-06-09 04:35 am (UTC)O.O; They switch in the original >-< CRIPES and it's like a huge discrepancy!!!!! I mean, I could understand like . . . 50 to 30 but . . . 5000 to 3000 XD WHOA! Even archaeologists aren't that bad at dating things . . . unless you're talking universal theory then it's all up in the air. Even rounding off that's . . . damn that's just ridiculous XD