I'm not heart'ing Wiki at the moment
Aug. 30th, 2007 12:30 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
azuriteWhile it was great to hear the other day that people actually enjoy using and adding to WikiFic, sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that ever adds articles. I doubt it's because people don't have the knowledge, and it's not like WF's rules are so stringent that I'd delete ANYTHING. In fact, most people have added some pretty good quality info that I wouldn't have known about otherwise!
What pisses me off is that the Yu-Gi-Oh Wikia, which primarily focuses on the TCG/OCG as opposed to the fandom aspect of the series, is much larger- it's got over 13,000 articles, while we're teetering near 200. Most of those articles are for cards, of course, and all the subsequent data like trivia. It's not that it's larger and obviously has more people working for it-- it's that everything is made so easy for them because they're hosted on Wikia, a "make your own wiki" site. It takes all the work and learning out of it. If I'd known about Wikia years ago, before I started WikiFic, I might have put it there, but I didn't. I also don't like ad-supported anything, so I've done everything on my own domain.
That's part of the reason why anything is a long time coming with WikiFic-- it takes a LOT of trial and error, searching, uninstalling and reinstalling... I'm always having issues, and I don't have a website support team to back me up. I have to turn to the MediaWiki.org Discussion pages, the Mediawiki-l mailing list, and similar places. Even my own web host can't help out with MediaWiki beyond enabling things via SSH and the like. And I'm on a shared host, because I can't afford a private one, which means many of my editing options are limited.
It looks like the YGO Wikia has a LOT more extensions that either don't exist for the general MediaWiki public (which is also infuriating) or require some "heavy duty" editing, like adding *.pl files. I'd love to be able to take advantage of rotating templates for featured cards, JavaScript for displaying pages succinctly, timelines, and so on, but it's tough doing it on my own. Looking at the Wikia, sometimes it seems hopeless, even though I look at WikiFic and I realize I didn't create it for people looking to verify card info or get strategies-- it's for fic writers and readers that should know about the series they're involved with. You'll probably never see anything on how astrology and blood types tie into Yu-Gi-Oh at the Wikia, but those articles (mainly because they're mine :P) are at WikiFic. I'd like to think that can/does apply to a lot of other articles too, but we have SO FEW at this point...
*sigh* I just wish I had more involvement, I guess. I wish that for a lot of my sites. Maybe I'm more of a team-player than a lone wolf than I thought.
What pisses me off is that the Yu-Gi-Oh Wikia, which primarily focuses on the TCG/OCG as opposed to the fandom aspect of the series, is much larger- it's got over 13,000 articles, while we're teetering near 200. Most of those articles are for cards, of course, and all the subsequent data like trivia. It's not that it's larger and obviously has more people working for it-- it's that everything is made so easy for them because they're hosted on Wikia, a "make your own wiki" site. It takes all the work and learning out of it. If I'd known about Wikia years ago, before I started WikiFic, I might have put it there, but I didn't. I also don't like ad-supported anything, so I've done everything on my own domain.
That's part of the reason why anything is a long time coming with WikiFic-- it takes a LOT of trial and error, searching, uninstalling and reinstalling... I'm always having issues, and I don't have a website support team to back me up. I have to turn to the MediaWiki.org Discussion pages, the Mediawiki-l mailing list, and similar places. Even my own web host can't help out with MediaWiki beyond enabling things via SSH and the like. And I'm on a shared host, because I can't afford a private one, which means many of my editing options are limited.
It looks like the YGO Wikia has a LOT more extensions that either don't exist for the general MediaWiki public (which is also infuriating) or require some "heavy duty" editing, like adding *.pl files. I'd love to be able to take advantage of rotating templates for featured cards, JavaScript for displaying pages succinctly, timelines, and so on, but it's tough doing it on my own. Looking at the Wikia, sometimes it seems hopeless, even though I look at WikiFic and I realize I didn't create it for people looking to verify card info or get strategies-- it's for fic writers and readers that should know about the series they're involved with. You'll probably never see anything on how astrology and blood types tie into Yu-Gi-Oh at the Wikia, but those articles (mainly because they're mine :P) are at WikiFic. I'd like to think that can/does apply to a lot of other articles too, but we have SO FEW at this point...
*sigh* I just wish I had more involvement, I guess. I wish that for a lot of my sites. Maybe I'm more of a team-player than a lone wolf than I thought.
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Date: 2007-08-31 02:52 am (UTC)But I will head over to the forums to see what I can find there. And while I haven't been doing anything GX-related outside of reading the manga as it comes out in SJ, from what I have heard, it makes me shake my head and sigh. Yu-Gi-Oh! may not have been the pinnacle of realistic teen drama or whatnot, but it didn't exactly have "dimensional hopping" and Kaiba agreeing for complete weirdos to stage tournaments at the D.A.
But yes, I'm all for pooling resources and breathing some life into the fandom again. I'm still active, just as you are-- torn in many places, and busy.
As for Hales, no I never did hear back from her. I assumed it was because someone else had gotten the position...
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Date: 2007-08-31 09:21 pm (UTC)I watched the first few seasons before GX just got too WTF. (Space dolphins dueling robots on a moon of Jupiter did it for me.) Really a shame, all things considered.
I added you onto my AIM, if you spot me on, give a chat. :)
And re: Hales: She said she couldn't get a hold of you for it. She said she wanted to do two mod slots and I got the other, but she was waiting to announce til she heard from you. And now she's vanished again. Wondering if it's a lost cause...
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Date: 2007-09-01 12:28 am (UTC)Also, I'm rarely on IM, but when I am, I'll be sure to give you a buzz. Are you still FranTheNut?
Hales-- not sure how she tried to get ahold of me, but last I heard was via an LJ comment. My email's everywhere, so unless she'd been looking for me via IM, I'm not sure why she couldn't have gotten ahold of me, unless an email ended up in my SPAM folder or somesuch. *headscratch*
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Date: 2007-09-01 01:33 am (UTC)Re: Hales: Who knows *sighs* When I see her on next I'll have to poke her about it.
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Date: 2007-09-03 05:28 am (UTC)